It was a month or so ago. I was asking Notaries Notary questions about what you can and cannot do. Unfortunately, Notaries often don’t take Notary rules seriously or have just never been adequately trained. The “more, but not less rule” is no good unless you understand which direction the rule runs. The ID can have more than the document, but 40% of Notaries think that it is okay if the name to be notarized on the document has more meat on it than the name on the identification. Good God! My point here, is that the whole point of having a Notary is to verify people’s identity who signed documents. The Notary profession helps to deter and prevent fraud as a result. But, if Notaries do whatever, and don’t follow state rules, then the purpose of having a Notary is defeated or undermined.
To put it shortly, the entire point of a Notary is to say No. If you feel uncomfortable or awkward saying No, then you should not become a Notary. In many Middle-Eastern and Asian cultures it is considered bad manners to say no, so they say, maybe, or later, or perhaps next time, or make up some excuse for not saying yes. Since they can’t outright say no, they beat around the bush. But, as a Notary, you might be facilitating fraud by not saying no. So, get used to saying no. Stand in front of the mirror and say, “No…. NO…. NO!!!!” Do it the way Joey from Friends practices saying, “How you doin’?” in front of the mirror dozens of times mastering his facial expression and verbal inflections. Take pride in saying no. However, for those Notaries that don’t like saying no, worry not! There is a solution. Become a Yes-tary.
But, what do Yes-taries do? Yestaries say yes to illegal requests. Unfortunately they cannot be commissioned and don’t have a stamp. But, maybe they should have an unofficial Yestary Public stamp just to make their job more comedically offiicial. What would be the duties of a Yestary? If someone wants to be Notarized as Mickey Mouse but lacks sufficient ID, you say, YES. If someone claims to be Kim Jong Un and looks Korean enough to you, say yes and stamp his document. If a Taiwanese client wants you to stamp a loose piece of paper because their government requires such a Yestary act, you can do it as a Yestary, but not as a Notary. Because a Notary’s job is to say No!
But, what if they won’t pay your travel fee if you say no? It is actually illegal in many states for a Notary to notarize a document in which they have a beneficial or financial interest. I feel that if the Notary will not get paid a travel fee if they refuse to notarize, then they now do have a beneficial interest of a sort and would be willing to break the law so they would get paid. Get your travel fee up front before you see the signers or the documents or the identifications. That way if a signer isn’t there, or if the name on the ID is not matching, or some other problem, you can forfeit your Notary fee, but still get paid for your trip. Remember, your job is not to please the client, but to uphold the law even if that means hurting someone’s feelings by saying no. Hurting someone’s feelings is better than going to court as a result of facilitating fraud or having your commission revoked!
One last note, it has been reported that some Yestaries have gotten a rare intestinal disease from saying yes too much to illegal requests. Some call it an illness, I call it karmic retrobution. The disease is called “yesentery” and comes from ingesting unclean Notary requests. If you get this disease, just consult your doctor and take some prescribed antibiotics. Good luck!
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Can you notarize a signature in Chinese or another alphabet?
What if the signer signs in Chinese characters or hyroglyphics?
I once had a signer who wanted to sign in Chinese. It is prudent for a Notary to check the signature on a signer’s ID and make sure it matches the signature on the document. Otherwise, you might suspect fraud. But, is it legal to notarize a signature in Chinese? On your Notary certificate you have to write the person’s name in English.
My logic is that many English language signatures are incomprehensible scribbles. So, what’s the difference between an American scribble and a Chinese scribble? You can’t make sense of either one. The signer’s name was something like John C Wang and he had three corresponding Chinese characters. He claimed that scribble #1 represented the John and the next one the C, etc. I was unclear about the law in this case, but his signature matched his ID which is why I let him do it this way as matching signatures are a requirement for prudent Notarization.
But, on another occassion I was asked to teleport back into time to notarize in hyroglyphics at a pyramid. The provided a time machine and gallactic portal. I went back into time (air conditioning not included) and got to the site where they needed a notary. We spent an hour drinking tea, making small talk and negotiating my fee. They talked me out of a travel fee since they provided the travel arrangements. I also didn’t want to negotiate too hard as I didn’t want them to get mad at me otherwise I might not have a trip back to 2016. So, we sat down at the signing table, saw the guy’s ID, etc.
NOTARY: For security, may I know your mummy’s maiden name?
KING TUT: Which one?
NOTARY: Okay, please sign the journal
KING TUT: Okay…
NOTARY: Oh, forgot. I’m not allowed to Notarize hyrogliphics.
KING TUT: But, this is how I sign! And by the way, you are out of your jurisdiction, and your commission is not current here as it hasn’t been originated for another 5000 years.
NOTARY: Hmmm, good point. But, the pistachios were good and I enjoyed the time machine so it wasn’t a complete waste of time — or reverse time as the case may be.
KING TUT: Okay, how about I get into the time machine with you, go to California in 2016 where you are commissioned, and make up some English language name.
NOTARY: That might work. But you need an ID from a government that has a photo and physical description.
KING TUT: No problem, I’ll just go down to the DMV and pick one up.
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