Poor Marcy needed a babysitter. She called one of her regulars named Amy. Amy was a nice girl from the neighborhood. Marcy’s husband was getting on her case about spending too much money on babysitters.
HUSBAND: Why are you running all around town chasing notary jobs when you should be watching our kid?
MARCY: I’m trying to create a career so we’ll have a better future.
HUSBAND: Our future’s just fine. You just stay here, and we’ll make it. We made it so far.
MARCY: I’m tired of just sitting around the house. I’ve done a few dozen signings, and I’m getting the hang of it. There’s money in this!
HUSBAND: Okay, but I don’t like it. I have to work late and our baby will be all alone with a complete stranger!
MARCY: Oh, It’ll be okay.
HUSBAND: I hope you are making more than $20, because that’s what the babysitter is charging us.
MARCY: If I get paid I will.
HUSBAND: IF you get paid? What kind of business is this? I’m putting my foot down! I bet Patricia down the street talked you into this.
MARCY: I already have the appointment and Amy is coming over.
AMY: Hi, I’m here. But, one small thing.
MARCY: Anything.
AMY: I need to have someone come over while you’re gone. Only for a minute. Will that be okay?
MARCY: Well sure. But, who is it?
AMY: It’s for business. It’s not a friend.
MARCY: What kind of business? And at your age? Business?
AMY: Hmmm. To explain or not to explain. I would feel more comfortable not talking about it.
MARCY: Well, if you are having someone come to my house while I’m not here, I need to know who it is.
AMY: Well, it is sort of a guy who helps with paperwork. He stamps stuff…
MARCY: Is he a Notary?
AMY: Oh my God! How did you know?
MARCY: I’m also a Notary, and I’m going out to an assignment right now. I can notarize you for free when I come back.
AMY: Well, it’s kind of private. I’m not sure I want you to see the paperwork.
MARCY: Private? How private are we talking? Something you don’t want your mom to know?
AMY: If she finds out, I’m grounded for life.
MARCY: So, you’re in trouble? And you’re babysitting my kid? What kind of trouble?
AMY: Oh, it won’t affect you. It’s just for a test.
MARCY: Test? Are you on drugs? Or… Oh no.
AMY: I missed my period last month.
MARCY: Oh. I understand. You teenagers need to be more careful. Boys aren’t a game. You can ruin your entire life in an instant!
AMY: I know that now.
MARCY: Okay, you can have whomever you want notarize you, but no boys coming over here tonight or any night. Got it?
AMY: I understand. I’m glad I explained it to you.
MARCY: If you can’t explain, you have nobody to help you. But, if I can’t explain something. I just call the Lender!
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Point (14) When to explain and when not to explain
The points in this section are not too much different from point 13. But, we will go into more detail here. The main point is that general questions about loan documents are for the Notary to explain if your state laws allow for that. Specific questions about the loan require you to call the Lender or Title company.
What should the Notary do under these situations?
(1) Where is my prepayment penalty explained?
Show the borrower the correct page where the information is located.
(2) Why is my prepayment penalty so unfair?
Call the Lender or refer the borrower to the Lender.
(3) What is my loan amount?
Refer the borrower to a document that has this information.
(4) I thought my loan amount was $365,000 and now it is $390,000 with fees. I had no idea it would be so high.
Show them the HUD, and then perhaps call the Lender.
(5) I am supposed to sign my name as Theo T Tango, but my ID only says T Tango, what do I do?
Unfortunately, the Lender can’t help with Notary law issues as they will most likely encourage you to break the law in order to get the loan signed. Try to find a legal way to get the loan signed. Call the Lender if you want to know about using the Signature Affidavit though.
(6) Where is my APR?
Show them the Truth in Lending Disclosure
(7) I was told my APR would be 4.6%, but it is 4.7%
Call the Lender
(8) The signer wants to introduce you to their girlfriend
Politely say hi
(9) The signer wants their girlfriend to join you at the signing — naked
Call the Lender!!!
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Is $75 enough to print 2 sets of docs, notarize & do faxbacks?
In this tough economy, many notaries have simply dropped out. The remaining notaries, as tough or as proud as they portrayed themselves to be have simply had to compromise their standards for what they charge. Many signing agents with ten or more years of experience told Carmen (in confidence) that they were forced to accept $60 signings just to stay afloat. So, we won’t mention any names, but you know who you are. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Americans complain about what Indians would regard as a luxury!
Notaries complain endlessly about how unfair it is that they only get $75 for so much work with such high expenses. My take on the situation is quite different because I travel. A policeman in India makes $50 per month (not including bribes.) Can you imagine living on $50 per month? How would you rent a place to live? You would be living on top of each other twenty to a room and eating dahl and rice in small quantities once or twice per day if you were lucky. Can you imagine this type of poverty that hard working Indians endure as a matter of standard procedure? And what about the folks in the countryside who work for 20 rupees per day which is about 40 cents. That is about $12 per month. When you get these $75 assignments, just say to yourself, “I made four months of a Bihari farmworker’s salary in two hours! Yippee!”
If you are doing worse than last year, do you get upset?
It is a human tendency to be sad when you are not getting what you want, or what you used to easily get. But, this human tendency needs to be changed. We live in a changing world where what was impossible yesterday might be easy tomorrow, and vice versa. You need to just do the best you can do and not base your life today on whether it is better or worse than last year. Notaries base their fees on 123notary on what they paid last year. If I charge $150 this year, but only $120 last year, they are upset that they are paying more this year than last year. What really matters is not what happened last year, but if your investment is getting you a sufficient return.
Let’s do the math
If you get $75 for a loan signing, how much work and expense is really involved. You might spend 20 minutes on the phone on average including follow up calls, scheduling and making sure the documents arrive through whatever medium is used. You might need to drive thirty to forty-five minutes both ways to the signing. You might go through 350 pages of paper, and some toner or ink printing the documents which is not for free unless you have a gift certificate to office-max.
Your real expenses might be $4 of car expenses including gas, oil changes, and other wear and tear.
If you can purchase paper for a bulk price you might use up $3 in paper, and $2 in ink or toner (just guessing)
You might use up two hours of your time including everything: 1 hour driving; 30 minutes signing; 20 minutes on the phone; 10 minutes doing fax backs. (best case scenario)
After expenses, you get $66 profit and you can deduct your miles at the Federal mileage rate as well!
If you spent two hours total, you got $33 per hour.
On the other hand, if you spent an hour each direction, had to wait four hours for documents, and the signers read every letter of every page and asked a million questions, plus spent an hour on the phone with Fred the lender, then you might have invested seven hours which would leave you with $9 per hour which is still above minimum wage in most states.
$20/hour is not bad for someone who can just walk in off the street.
I would say in all honesty, that the average signing agent probably makes about $20 per hour for their assignments. More seasoned signing agents who command higher rates like $125 or more per signing might make $45 per hour on average. Being a relatively inexperienced signing agent is not a high skilled job like being a nuclear physicist. You do not merit $50 or more per hour unless you are the best 1% of notaries in the business or are an Attorney. All you need to be a notary signing agent is to be a resident of a state (not even a citizen in many states,) fill out an application (most states don’t even have a notary exam,) get bonded, and take a quick class in loan signing; $20 per hour is not bad for someone who can just walk in off the street and start doing loan signings. For a notary with three years of experience, they should be making more like $25-$30 per hour. That is what I made when I was doing signings with that level of experience!
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