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September 26, 2019

What do you charge for Notary work & signings?

Filed under: Notary Fees & Pricing — admin @ 10:34 pm

Just out of curiousity, the market has changed since we wrote our various pricing oriented blog tutorials. Those were written from 2010 to 2016. We want to know, what do you guys charge now?

Signings
eDocuments
Extra Miles

Regular signings for general notary work.
Other

Thanks!

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September 25, 2019

Will 123notary certification get you more work and is it worth it?

Filed under: Certification & Communication Skills — admin @ 10:34 pm

People think about the financial cost of getting 123notary certified. It is only $67.95 currently. That is not a big investment. Word on the street is that get more work and about $8 more per job if you have our certification. As of 2019, I estimate that you would get about 30% more work by having our certification, and $8 more per signing according to a poll I took.

So, if you were paying a few hundred a year for a top listing, you would get 30% more out of it which might add up to about $100 extra value for advertising each year. The other way to look at it is that you might get several thousand dollars more business each year which you would have no other way to obtain. So are you gaining $100 worth of advertising or thousands in revenue? How should you look at it?

The fact is that the big investment in our certification is not the cost which would pay for itself in days in terms of the extra work you are expected to get. The big investment is time, because in addition to our cert course, we expect you to master Notary Public 101 on our blog which is a long and comprehensive guide to basic Notary procedure. We think you should already know that stuff, but nobody does regardless of what state you are in.

So, the bottom line is that you might need 20 hours of study time, but the $30,000 extra you might make over the next decade is definitely worth your time and makes your time worth $1500 per hour. What else are you doing with your time that is worth $1500 per hour unless you are an assassin. And if my math is wrong, you tell me what the correct math is. After all I am only doing an educated estimate.

You might also have an easier time rising up to a higher spot when one comes available if you have our certification. So there are multiple reasons for getting it but only one for not — laziness and a self defeating attitude. Keep positive — and get our certification today. It is good for life but you do have to pass a phone audit as well as the online test.

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123notary certification gets you more clicks
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=22496

Elite Certification will benefit you for the rest of your life
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=20770

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September 24, 2019

Does SnapDocs have thin margins?

Filed under: Advertising — admin @ 10:33 pm

SnapDocs charges its users a lot per transaction. Every time you download documents, or use the system to find a Notary to dispatch for a job, it costs. The fee is based on how comprehensive the services you use for that particular job and they might have package rates. I am not an expert on what they charge, so don’t hold me to this.

But, they have expenses as well. SnapDocs is a sophisticated portal where they have huge technical expenses as well as rent, salaries, insurance and more. They are running on a margin. And I’m wondering how their margins are when business is sluggish like it is now. Their income goes down, but their expenses remain the same.

And what if they had staff turnover and the new staff lacked the mojo of the more experienced staff who understood their system and business model well, and cared tremendously about the success of their enterprise?

Snapdocs came out of nowhere a few years ago and nobody knows how long they will last. I guess we will find out.

You might also like:

123notary vs. Snapdocs
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=21258

Snapdocs – when the texts stop
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=21163

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September 23, 2019

Moving up the list on 123notary – how does it work?

Filed under: Advertising — admin @ 10:33 pm

Many people start out with a free listing on 123notary and then upgrade once they get work. When they upgrade, the best positions are not always available. So, what should they do?

In my opinion, just get the best spot that is available and then wait for a better spot to become available. But, what else do you do?

The way the system works is that Jeremy decides who is offered a free or paid upgrade and who is not. This is not done based on a personal preference, but based on stats. If you have better stats than the others in your area, you might be the first to be offered or given an upgrade.

So, what can you do to merit more points in your stats? Just get more reviews, develop your notes, ask for help, and try to get our certification (which takes a lot of studying.) Good luck and you can always email us to see what is available.

You might also like:

What is a high placed listing on 123notary worth?
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=16720

High placed listings – which ones get more clicks?
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=22116

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September 22, 2019

When can you charge for an Oath?

Filed under: Technical & Legal — admin @ 10:32 pm

If an Oath is a separate and independent notary act, you can charge for it as far as I know — I swear!

But, I believe (and please comment below if I am wrong) that you may not charge extra for an Oath on a Deposition, court appearance, or for credible witnesses.

When using credible witnesses for an Acknowledgment, you just charge for the Acknowledgment, but not for the credible witnesses. This is only for states that allow credible witnesses which is about 30 states more or less and you can look them up online.

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When are you required by law to give Oaths?
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=21017

The Starbucks Oath Question
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=21001

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September 21, 2019

Notary Tips from Carmen

Filed under: Carmen Towles — admin @ 10:31 pm

Do your research FIRST before you buy anything.
Know the ends and outs of the notary business that you are trying to undertake.
know the difference between a notary and a signing agent. These are 2 different hats that can conflict with each other
Know what is expected of you.
Know how many notaries in your area.
Try to find out if they are busy.

Find answers to the following questions:

Is there any work in your area?
How do I get the work?
How much money will it cost me to get started?
What supplies and hardware do I need?
What license or insurance do I need?
How long will it take me to make a profit?

You cannot listen to folks who are selling classes. They have one objective-sell you their course. They will tell you what you what to hear. Keep in mind it takes quite a white to build a successful notary business. You need to market, market and market some more.

2. Make sure you know YOUR states notary laws; cold. This is of the utmost important. This knowledge is what will keep you out of
trouble. And it is far more important than loan signing. If you are a great notary you will be an exceptional signing agent.

Know what ID is acceptable in YOUR state. What to do if they don’t have acceptable ID. What if it is expired? Can you still use it?
Where to place your seal.
When can you use credible witnesses? and why would you use them?. What are they and how many do you need in your state?
Who’s sole responsibility is it to fix a notarial certificate?
When is it a must that you change the venue? Do you even know what a venue is?
Who’s responsibility is it to initial these changes?
Can you use another states notarial certificate? And if yes when?
When are you supposed to give an oath?

These two things seem to be the most the notaries argue about;

Notaries continue to argue about whether they can use another states acknowledgement or not.
They consiisting argue about making changes to the documents.

Who’s sole responsibility is it to fix a notarial certificate?
Who’s responsibility is it to initial certain changes on the notarial certificate?

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Tips for Notaries
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=3360

How to fix mistakes
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=2231

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September 18, 2019

Where do you store your journals when they are filled out?

Filed under: Journals — admin @ 10:20 pm

When you retire, you send the journals to your county clerk or SOS. But, what do you do with them in the mean time after you have filled out one or more journal?

Do you keep them in a safe, your closet, your car, a desk drawer? They are actually thin and you can fit a lot in just one box. Your experience please…

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September 17, 2019

How a video game reminded me what a noble profession we have

Filed under: Other Guest Bloggers — admin @ 9:57 pm

So, you’re probably wondering why I’m even talking about a video game. After all, working as a notary is serious business and you wouldn’t be wrong in saying that it is a profession where errors are seriously frowned upon. Our experience in the profession varies, but the one thing that’s constant among all notaries is that there are professional standards that need to be met.

Some tasks are straightforward and simple, while others are more complex. Yet, no matter how simple the task may be, the smallest error can put others at risk. The game I’m referring to, called Papers, Please, offers is a similar — albeit virtual — experience.

First Off, What Exactly Is Papers, Please?

A recently released point and click game game, Papers, Please places the player in the shoes of a border inspector of a country called Arstotska. The player’s task is to screen each person who wants to enter the country and to try to adhere to standards set by the government. There are many other aspects of the game, but this is the aspect that I want to put a heavy emphasis on. In the game, making an error gets you a citation, and in the later stages an error means letting dangerous people through the border, which puts lives at risk. You essentially handle sensitive data, check it for accuracy and truthfulness, and decide whether you’d allow the person into the country or not.

It’s quite similar to how we check statements and decide if the facts hold up. In fact, most, if not all court proceedings rely heavily on notarized documents, especially during personal injury cases, according to the lawyers at tariolaw.com.

Why Should We Care About This Game?

Well, that’s where the error is. You assume that this is about the game. It’s not. What really struck me was how the tasks got more and more complicated as the game progressed. You have to assess various pieces of information and decide whether to stamp a traveller’s passport, allowing them access through the border.

This puts an air of risk in the game, even when all the player does is to look through papers and counter-check facts presented by a traveller. And the way that the travelers interact with the player in an attempt to appeal to the player’s kinder nature forces you to make hard decisions.

How Is It Related To The Profession?

It reminded me a lot of how we, as public notaries, are the front line of defense against any attempts to commit fraud. In the same way that the inspector in Papers, Please is the first line of defense against people who would do the country harm, we are the first line of defense against people who want to put falsehoods onto paper or when they try to twist the truth in their favor.

And it’s rather funny that I was unexpectedly reminded of this duty by a video game that I happened to stumble across whilst browsing my YouTube feed in my free time!

I mean, whether you’ve had 30 years of experience in the profession or you’re a rookie who’s learning the ropes, it can be draining to do the same thing over and over if you forget your purpose. I’ll say it again, ours is a profession that can’t have any mistakes, whether they’re big mistakes or common mistakes — we are all about accuracy and precision. And sometimes it can be quite draining, but always remember that the seal that we stamp has power and authority. People are depending on us to verify facts and to educate them on what they’re getting into by signing a document.

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Ken’s most popular oldies

Filed under: Ken Edelstein — admin @ 3:55 am

Here are some blog entries that I like to link to, but they tend to get buried.

Dress British, Think Yiddish
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=8643

The Signature Name Affidavit
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=16298

The Right to Cancel done Wrong
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=10001

Notarizing your foreign language document
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=2768

A job declined
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=19979

Ken’s list of things a notary might goof on
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=19427

Split PDF’s into legal and letter
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=8856

The Affidavit of Occupancy
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=10193

The Compliance Agreement
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=15828

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September 16, 2019

Travel fees vs. Notary fees in your journal

Filed under: Journals — admin @ 11:10 pm

For those of you who keep a Notary journal, you need to record the Notary fee as one of the fields. But, what if you get paid $65 for a signing with a travel fee and two signatures? How do you differentiate between the travel fee and the signature fees?

You can either arbitrarily decide how much is a travel fee and how much is a signature fee if the job is a flat fee. Or you can base the fees on the fees you quoted the client.

When you fill in your journal, the main thing is to put a Notary fee that does not exceed the fees allowed by your particular state, otherwise you could be accused of charging excessive fees which is illegal. If California allows $15 per notarized signature on an Acknowledgment or Jurat, then you cannot inscribe more than $15 per journal entry for each Notary act.

For those of you who use the “cram it in” style of journal entries, you cannot put a notary fee for five documents on the same line. It just doesn’t make sense. This is yet another potent reason why you should not use a style of journal entry that inputs more than one document per line. It is impossible to prove in court that the signer consented to all of the documents being notarized since he is not signing for a particular one. It is also not possible to know what the fees involved are either which means you are not doing proper bookkeeping.

As far as the travel fee, you could input the travel fee for a particular appointment in the additional notes section of the journal entry and indicate that is is a travel fee. The travel fee I would indicate once on the first journal entry for a particular appointment. Correct and prudent journal entry procedure requires separate entries for each person and document. So, once again, three people each signing four notarized documents would result in twelve journal entries with the travel fee indicated in the top entry.

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Travel fees if nothing gets signed
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=22578

Why are the fees offered to us so low you ask?
http://blog.123notary.com/?p=22293

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